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Rant: The Nokia Social App – Please stay signed in! (And a bunch of other annoyances)

Before I begin my coursework I’ll let off some steam and rant about the social app.

The Nokia Social App

It really feels like a half baked offering when compared to something like gravity:

  • Scrolling – why the hell is it so crap? You’ve got smooth scrolling in browser, photos, contacts, apps yet here it’s like I’ve stepped back to the first N97 firmware. Yes it’s still kinetic scrolling somewhat but it’s so painstakingly SLOW and CHOPPY.
  • Titleless photouploads: The NEW update allows you to send photos to social places immediately after taking them. But why autosend without a title? On the plus side it compresses a picture and goes up pretty quick which might be OK for facebook (where it goes into a random “Mobile Uploads” folder). For twitter though, you kind of need to caption images most of the time. I wish PixelPipe would be preinstalled and let me upload like I did in N900 (where it also gave you option to compress photos in settings, titles and a million other social places not just facebook or twitter)
  • Forgetful sign-in: I thought it was just me until I got replies saying it was happening to other folk too. The app keeps making me log in OVER and OVER and OVER for EACH social network after a few hours. Very annoying when you just maybe want to read some statuses, or just quickly update one. It’s NOT an issue with security as Ovi Store remembers my password and I can easily make purchases without ever typing my password. This is why I go to other apps and even bookmarked twitter sites like tweetgo as that’s just left signed in. Perhaps it’s to prevent the old Frape or “Facebook Rape” (basics are that your status is abused, possibly many other features of your profile but that’s not possible even if you are logged in to social app as it’s very limited.
  • Ovi Log in fail. Maybe it’s just me. The initial OVI account log in was also somewhat difficult (required to even let you sign in to twitter/facebook). I already had an account but got convinced mine  got deleted when I was allowed to sign in again with THE SAME email address and THE SAME phone number which is now associated with a +1 account I will NEVER use. Shame really as when you do this, if you switch your phone to say another new S^3 device, the phone picks up your account name.
  • Missing Features: There’s a few. Main ones for me – Twitter: When clicking a tweet there’s no retweeting, option to DM. Just reply. Facebook: photo tagging.
  • Stop re-inventing the wheel with a cube: It’s an absolute shame we do not have an official twitter or facebook app that’s to the grade on other platforms. We have the AWESOME gravity twitter for years folks have wanted Nokia to make their official twitter app (but would @janole have gotten the same room to keep giving us new awesome features?). e.g. Tweetie 2 now twitter for iPhone. Though iPhone has a crapload of great twitter apps. Gravity is really the only decent option. On a side note, Mark Guim from TheNokiaBlog says that “Nokia is looking at partnerships – no more looking to buy or make everything” – Bloomberg (orig article) says something’s coming on 23rd of Nov and Mark asked what Partnerships you’d like to see to which James Whatley commented: How about a parnership with @janole for their social client? YES PLEASE.
  • Well, let’s end on a positive. It’s free, the single stream is great if you connect your twitter and facebook friends together so they all get the same statuses – the facebook calendar/events integration with phone calendar is great if you’re a facebook user. It’s kind of OK once you’re signed in and perhaps in a few months time after a truck load of polishing we can all sing social app’s praises.

btw – These RANTS are not simply to bash Nokia but are little nudges in hope for improvement because we know Nokia can certainly do better.

What about you guys – any issues or improvements you’d like to see with the Social App?

  1. Diogonev
    November 14, 2010 at 10:45 am

    This is what I hate about Nokia. They know what needs to be done and yet they try to “reinvent the wheel with a cube”. Why are they wasting their time and money and your time and money (yeah, now they only waste my time, money went to Apple) doing other stuff nobody cares about? Who cares about ovi share and ovi mail? Just get those engineers doing something useful like… Heck I don’t know… Making a proper OS?

    Personal rant over.

  2. mj
    November 14, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Nice work Jay and good comment Diogonev. This is where Nokia falls over, trying to make things again and again. Pixel Pipe is great, just include it as part of the phone! Use your skilled people somewhere else!

  3. Mark Anderson
    November 14, 2010 at 11:03 am

    It’s annoying, isn’t it? That said, I don’t really use Twitter and the Facebook app works OK. The scrolling does need work though.

  4. Anil
    November 14, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    I noticed its the same issue when trying to log on to hotmail! Everytime you try to go onto hotmail you have to put in your username and password! Can it not save it so i dont have to?! I didnt have to put it in constantly with my S60V3 device!

  5. Keith
    November 14, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    I have to say that Nokia REALLY needs to work on this and a few other apps. also, did you have problems with writing your status on facebook? When I write something and hit spacebar ONCE, it actually generates 2 spaces. so i have to press backspace after every word 😦
    The app is up-to-date, latest version but still too many bugs are present. I dnt kno if this app is Qt based or not (looks like it’s not). But if it’s not, Nokia needs to make a Qt based social app for S^3 and upcoming MeeGo phones.

    • November 14, 2010 at 5:27 pm

      you remembered that?

      I had problems 1) sending out a status (hence why I went and looked for an alternative – tweetgo. Kinda stopped doing that and behaved afterwards.

      2) every time I pressed space there was two spaces! I think that was a bug with the QWERTY AND this app. I didn’t notice it when I got SWYPE (which refuses to turn off)

      Those were nearly in the rant 😀

      • Keith
        November 14, 2010 at 8:20 pm

        I haven’t really used Tweetgo yet coz I’m SO in love with gravity and it’s keyboard! (except for the no auto-correction part)

        And as for the Swype keyboard, it works great but, like you pointed out, it refuses to turn off. It won’t let us switch between keyboards without restarting the phone which is kinda lame :/
        So for facebook, I’m heavily dependent on my computer or iPod Touch but for Twitter, I’m loving N8 🙂

    • Andre
      November 14, 2010 at 7:44 pm

      AFAIK, the current client is written in WRT which is at the mercy of the somewhat crappy browser engine being used.
      A better browser and the improvement that Qt Webkit makes to the current implementation of WRT included in Qt 4.7 should make a world of difference for future iterations of this app, and other apps that may use WRT tech.

      Better still is the fact that QML is in Qt 4.7 IIRC which should make for even better looking apps :).

      Oh, a choice quote for scrolling improvements.
      “In a benchmark that measures the scrolling performance on popular websites, we found out that Qt 4.7.0 on this platform is 350% faster than Qt 4.6.0, thanks to several rendering related improvements.” 🙂

      4.7 should be making its way to devices within the next couple of weeks. Definitely before February I would think

      • alex68
        November 14, 2010 at 8:08 pm

        I DO hope Nokia symbian engineers do NOT spoil QT and get UI things right this time. No excuse anymore.

      • Keith
        November 14, 2010 at 8:25 pm

        That explains the clunkiness of the app. I’m hoping Nokia would use Qt for developing ALL symbian and MeeGo apps in future, not WRT.

        Qt 4.7 sounds amazing to me and since Nokia said they’ll turn to Qt, I don’t want any excuses for any future app written in WRT. It’s all gotta be Qt from now. As I’ve seen from the demos, Qt looks very simple (not for me, but for developers) and provides broader/easier opportunities to create better content.

  6. defsix
    November 14, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    It WAS a handy app. But since it’s broken now on a lot of N8’s and there is no apparent fix for it…. I use gravity now, infinatly better only lacking a decent widget plugin.

  7. @Creip
    November 15, 2010 at 9:02 am

    In general everything about the S^3 integration with your accounts is very poor.

    What’s up with the initial Ovi services login at initial boot-up of the device? What does it get you? Not much as you need to log-in again, again and again. Read about my experiences here: http://bit.ly/bpZX8A
    (sorry for advertising, trying to show I stringly AGREE!)

  8. Janne
    November 16, 2010 at 9:24 am

    So you’re essentially saying that there would be plenty of money for any developer who could create a better app?

    Sounds like an opportunity to me 😀

  9. m4rkus
    November 16, 2010 at 10:47 am

    at least on my N8 I can send a DM from Social by clicking on the contact picture.

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