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Video: Nokia N8 Review from Mobile Tech Review.

Here’s a review from the other side of the Pond, but a very fair and balanced one from Lisa at Mobile Tech Review (USA). They’ve slated Nokia and Symbian phones when necessary so it’s refreshing to hear about the good points coming from the new N8 and new Symbian^3.

  • Perfect phone for travelers – PENTABAND world 3G phone
  • 3 homescreen reminds of N900 – lots about it does and that’s a good thing
  • CAMERA – the real show stopper – not just the highest rated megapixel phone in US but really DOES TAKE THE BEST PICTURES *cough*engadget*iPhone*
  • Unique torpedo design – you either like it or you don’t
  • Solidly built alumin(i)um casing –
  • Ports fiddly, hard to pull off (and that’s about the HDMI, god knows, the memcard door is a puzzle and a half – maybe that’s just me, Lisa didn’t seem to mention problems with it here.)
  • Symbian^3 looks a lot like Symbian of old in terms of icon styles, something you feel at home with.
  • AMOLED Capacitive – very sharp, very vivid, very bright no complaints at all.
  • Downloaded a few apps already, 5th ed apps work fine
  • Music player – very apple like fashion – wonder what lawsuit’s gonna come up there
  • REALLY LOUD, loud, loud speaker on this thing – it’s quite good quality.
  • 256MB RAM, doesn’t sound like a super lot, Nokia and Symbian are very good on very little memory but it could stand to have more (lagging after 6 heavy apps apparently)
  • Web browser tested over T-Mobile 3G – works just as well with a AT&t sim.
  • Pinch zoom not quite as fast as iPhone and Android (we’d like to see a couple of updates)
  • The rendering itself is quite beautiful, you can even see flash ads.
  • Scrolling speed is good – no inertia scrolling (what, there’s no kinetic scrolling in browser? hmmm.)
  • (Similarities are compared with N900 about the browser – I’m not sure if there’s confusion with N97*)
  • All sorts of advanced HTML buttons work just fine.
  • YouTube flash embedded – it’s pretty good actually.
  • Photo Viewer quite fast  – 12MP camera images
  • 720p Video – if you’re a photo buff, it’s definitely good.
  • Video stabilization is very effective to prevent the bouncing in video.
  • Frame Rate video playback is good, in sync with audio – pretty good for 680MHZ CPU (that’s because of that mega broadcom chip doing much of the Graphics Processing)
  • Nokia’s Ovi Maps – much loved in Europes.
  • Handy shortcuts on homescreen – no wandering through menu
  • Readonably large phone but smaller than T-Mobile Vibrant and Captivate (though thicker).
  • Nice presentation box.


*Happily, Symbian 3 isn’t just a reworking of the old OS to gloom on touch, as was the case with S60 5th Edition. The N8 reminds us of the very respectable Nokia N900 smartphone running Maemo: it’s designed from the ground up for touch, as as such it has a capacitive multi-touch display and no stylus.

Thanks to chfyfx for the heads up.

  1. Chris
    October 2, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Well good for Nokia.

    I hope people receive the S^3 devices well. After all, it’s Nokia that ends up pushing a lot of boundaries most of the time. Apple’s only achievement so far is a nice UI.

    • October 3, 2010 at 4:17 am

      Not true. Apple has also managed to achieve the highest walls ever! 🙂
      And suckering people, from this point on known as sheep, into buying overpriced products with nice UIs! 😉

      • George
        October 3, 2010 at 4:31 am

        With all due respect. Fire up iTunes, go through the App Store. There are so many apps it’s not funny, good apps. Sure there are the stupid fart apps but there are lots of good ones.

        The iPhone has become a lifestyle device and the Apps cater to just about every lifestyle. Something Nokia hasn’t been able to do even though they had a huge head start.

        Trust me, set aside your bias look through the apps and look at the sheer variety. The US is very much pop culture and media centered. These are great. You don’t want them, fine, but a lot of people do.

        • October 3, 2010 at 4:38 am

          Sorry, can’t start iTunes.

          I have never, and will never, install iTunes. If an application can be found on iTunes and only iTunes, it’s not worth my time.

          My post was a joke about the truth, if you can’t set aside your emotional attachment to a product YOU enjoy using and being locked into, keep the respect cause I’d rather have the emotion – It makes sense!

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 4:51 am

            I’m not sure I understand your last statement but I use the N900.

            Alot of people think 250k apps are all iPhart apps. They’re not. There are some seriously good apps and that’s in part why the iPhone is so successful.

        • October 3, 2010 at 5:13 am

          I know without a doubt not all the applications in their store are fart ones. I am not your typical Apple hater. I have reasons, justifiable ones. 🙂

          The first being I refuse to be locked into a walled garden. I know it’s “the big thing” to say, but it’s how I feel! Too many restrictions with their products make them not for me. I don’t want, or need, to be coddled and I want the option to blaze my own trails. You really can’t do that with Apple. Their way or the highway is their motto!

          I don’t even need to go past my first issue, it’s enough of an issue for me to write off everything only found on their store. Nokia just announced the E7 – It has no MicroSD. I’m a huge Nokia fan, device is absolutely awesome IMO. If it didn’t have USBtoGo functionality, it wouldn’t even be on my radar because not having MicroSD is a deal breaker. If I bought it, I’d be a hypocrite.

          Same with iTunes, I can’t agree with their policies, so I can’t “conveniently” forget that they exist just so I can have some applications to run on an OK device!

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 5:20 am

            That’s fine. I have many of the same issues which is why I don’t have an iPhone.

            The E7 has no MicroSD. I didn’t think it had USB OTG, even if it did, it doesn’t have the legacy power adapter which would be a deal-breaker for me.

        • October 3, 2010 at 5:35 am

          N8 has one! But you know that already, and amazingly you even know a great reason! Not many people think of WHY Nokia does these things. They only look at the surface, they don’t reason it out or justify it. Hence, the iPhones of the world..shallow, no scope, no depth. Just to look pretty and be able to pinch to zoom, what a feature…….

          To get the QWERTY on the E7, I think the 2mm and microSD had to go. 😦

          I too, am very keen on the N9 with MeeGo. As much as I would enjoy using an N8, or maybe even the E7….I want an N9 with N8 features, QWERTY and CBD!

          To much to ask for? haha!

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 5:57 am

            If the N9 had QWERTY + CBD + USB OTG + Carl Zeiss optics and MeeGo, I’d go wait in line and I never go wait in line.

            The N8 is great, but I need my command line and access to Linux apps, as ugly as some are.

        • alex68
          October 3, 2010 at 8:40 am

          George, E7 has USB OTG. For the design of Qwerty, the camera and MicroSD were sacrified, but E7 will have software wise enhancement for business people usage. You will see…

          Check it out.

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 8:33 pm

            Hey, thanks for setting me straight. The E7 looks like a fine machine. I hope the N9 builds upon its success.

  2. kamuscasio
    October 2, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Have anyone notice that most reviewers don’t even know about the usb on the go feature? what a shame…
    i think it’s cool, it’s the first smartphone to have it right?
    it revolutionizes everything, so it should be focused more.

    • N900x
      October 2, 2010 at 10:18 pm

      Indeed. Before the N8, it was mostly Nokia devices (like the 6600 Slide and N810), certain mp3 players and calculators. USB OTG needs to be a standard in upcoming smartphones and devices.

      • George
        October 3, 2010 at 12:59 am

        What I appreciate about the N8 are the little details like the legacy power port that allows the phone to be plugged in while the microUSB can still be used to access files via USB OTG. It’s a nuance only geeks would notice but something every OTG user would run into if they use this feature for a semi-extended period of time, esp. at the end of the day and your battery is almost gone.

        • Cocco Bill
          October 3, 2010 at 2:03 am

          True. And all those great features go unnoticed and aren’t appreciated (by accident or on purpose) by the tech blogs. Tells a lot about the their professionalism. Yes, they don’t really have it.

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 3:17 am


            You can’t blame the US bloggers for feeling jilted because honestly Nokia has ignored the US for so long why should the bloggers care.

            This is a Market Development / PR problem. The bloggers miss stuff all the time because the N8 is not in their frame of reference. It’s Nokia’s job to make sure they understand.

            Look. The iPhone as great as it is lacks features and flexibility, but Apple marketing is AWESOME, and I don’t use that lightly.

            Bloggers and customers have bought in. If Nokia wants to do battle in the US, a spec sheet ain’t going to cut it, they have to WIN the hearts of bloggers and that takes a lot of time and energy. Honestly, I don’t see Nokia even trying to court the US market and they respond in kind. Unprofessional? Sure, but these are bloggers they’re not the LA Times or Washington Post. That’s the game and if Nokia doesn’t want to play, then they’ll get picked on day in and day out.

          • alex68
            October 3, 2010 at 9:01 am

            I think they ON PURPOSE just ignore the great things that N8 can do and people don’t know well yet, and exaggerate things that N8 is not so good at and actually most of the people are aware of.

            What a shame!

        • October 3, 2010 at 4:22 am

          The problem is that blogger’s should know better. Nokia has refused to play nice with carriers (Good for them!) and the bloggers are the ones buying into the marketing – when they should really be the ones who are trying the hardest to NOT do so.

          A blogger who is brainwashed by marketing isn’t a blogger any longer, just an advertiser. They should be unbiased, report the facts and NOT the marketing!

          I hate marketing and advertising. Waste of time and money creating it all. I do my own research, I do not want the company that is trying to SELL me the product telling me about it. Seems a little backwards, doesn’t it? 😉

  3. Nocare
    October 2, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Look promising!

    I wonder if peter skillman will give opinions and advices to symbian 4 team

  4. bkb1
    October 2, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    she said 3.7 inch screen, its suppose to be 3.5

  5. Nocare
    October 2, 2010 at 2:46 pm


    nokia, time to backport symbian 3 features like conversation, more shortcut widgets for n97 mini

  6. Ranjit
    October 2, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    A very fair and honest review. I hope more of the reviewers look a bit deeper than just comparing it to iPhone or Android UI and use the have a look at more advanced features that Symbian has.

  7. Stoli89
    October 2, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Nokia needs to do a better job of marketing USB On-the-Go and really getting the updated Browser AND updated OVI Maps (with Pinch-Zoom) to reviewers ASAP.

    • alex68
      October 2, 2010 at 3:45 pm

      Retail Ovi Map is 3.0.4 which supporting Pinch and Zoom. Techradar reviewer said the phone was received actually 2 week ago. But still I think he SHOULD have the right version of OVI map.

      • Roger Johnson
        October 2, 2010 at 3:50 pm

        Are you sure? Because the 3.06 Maps that’s in beta is touted as having pinch and zoom as a new feature…

        • alex68
          October 2, 2010 at 5:13 pm

          Emm, how come I made such a stupid mistake…

          The reviewer was innocent in this map respect. But he updated they will renew the review soon.

          OK – I can give you an update. Despite Nokia UK giving us (and others) this phone and saying it was a review unit, they are now saying it isn’t actally representative of the release version.
          As we only do full reviews of final products, we will move this article to a ‘hands on review’ status and take off the score.
          When we do finally see a reviewable model, we will update and republish as a scored review.
          Our apologies for this. We review stuff in good faith so you can imagine how pleased we are at the moment.
          Editor in Chief

          • Cocco Bill
            October 3, 2010 at 2:19 am

            In good faith? Hah. That’s a good one. Their “review” was so biased and crappy. There were a lot of errors, omissions and false claims to make N8 look worse than others.

            One only needs compare the N8 “review” with others like iPhone or Desire. The attitude and bias against Nokia is very clear. Everything in that “review” was written in negative tone.

            Techradar has shown it’s true colors. No objectivity or professionalism there.

    • GordonH
      October 2, 2010 at 3:55 pm

      Once USB On-the-Go, updated Browser and Ovi Maps are given or fixed…. reviewers will be focusing on negative like less apps and UI.
      I have no idea why a 100,000 apps are required and each mobile OS UI has it’s strengths and weakness.
      For many “uncool”(sorry no other word pops up in mind) people… it’s not cool to focus on n8’s positve points.

  8. October 2, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    just tried n8 demo 2marrow i will preorder it. its impressive very good senstivity like galaxy s
    nokia priority using yellow light so photo might be yellowish
    i m the guy wearing cap

  9. Roger Johnson
    October 2, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Well this review just goes to reinforce how dishonest and lame Gizmodo, Engadget, CNet and TechRadar are.

    Hard to believe that websites with their reputations would let honesty, integrity and fair play go out the window, and be willing to shamelessly and blatantly support their beloved American made iPhone and Androids.

    Glad to see with the review above some Americans still uphold values of decency and honesty and a fair world view.

    • October 2, 2010 at 3:55 pm

      nokia file case against them

    • chfyfx
      October 2, 2010 at 5:01 pm

      exactly. the good thing is that the second opinion is always open and always there in the US.

    • Cocco Bill
      October 3, 2010 at 2:24 am

      Nokia should cut them totally from any future events and phone samples. Since those sites are going to trash your products anyway, there’s no loss in ignoring them completely from now on.

      • George
        October 3, 2010 at 3:24 am

        I’ll venture to guess that Nokia is paying people to do marketing and PR.

        This is a job and if they want to take it personal they they should find another job.

        If they want to compete in the US then they need to swallow their pride and show the US bloggers that Nokia is serious about competing in the US.

        It may be too late for the N8, but remember if Nokia blogger relations are bad now, then MeeGo will get it even worse.

        I know you guys are fan boys and this isn’t easy to hear but listen to me. If Nokia is really putting the future on MeeGo then they better do what they can NOW so that at least it gets a FAIR shot, something the N8 didn’t get.

        You attract flies with honey not vinegar. If MeeGo is successful, then it will have been worth it. If MeeGo is not, then Nokia may not get a second chance.

        • IMarius
          October 3, 2010 at 4:24 am

          George(to this and your other post) no offence but i can name countless american and asia technology companies that have put f**k all effort in europe compared their other markets.

          but i would hope those companys would get a fair review on a tech blog.
          in fact marketing and so on should not matter one bit those
          people are surpose to be tech journalist ( they really should not be missing features or making bias reviews.)

          And the hole thing about Nokia sallowing their pride, after being to many many Nokia events , they come off as one of the least arrogant companies i have seen for its size.

          Nokia has never giving up on the American market , and its not like they dont try,and i know they will keep trying, but judging from some of their treatment i would be surprised if they did not feel their was a double standard.

          And at the end of the day Nokia are a business, america is not Nokia biggest market,
          its not event the biggest smartphone market anyway, so they can only try so hard in it compared to other places.

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 4:39 am

            @Imaris – That’s fine, if they don’t want to focus on the US that’s ok, but they shouldn’t complain then when they slammed by the US bloggers.

            The problem is that US bloggers are spoiled by Android and iOS. They can’t get past the cludgy Symbian S^3. It’s not in their frame of reference to think that an OS as simple as Symbian can produce good results.

            By the way, I’m not talking about more events. What they need are PR and market development, people who’s job it is to make sure that bloggers / journalists / analysts understand and don’t miss anything. It takes a lot of manpower because its 1:1 not just throw an event under a big tent.

            It’s Nokia’s choice, but if they lose even more of the US market they’re the only ones that will hurt. The bloggers don’t care.

            It’s true that the US isn’t the leader it once was, but you would have to be kidding me if you don’t think they are setting the trends when it comes to the high end smartphone market.

            Maybe not now, but eventually the world will wonder, why Can’t Nokia keep up with the Americans? Why can’t they create an innovative UI? Where are the tablets and all the great apps to make my life easy and fun?

        • October 3, 2010 at 4:28 am

          No, the bloggers need to swallow their egos.

          Nokia needs to put out the best device they can. If they divert money to advertising, they may end up with say, a faulty antenna design.

          Then where would they be? Any company that found themselves in that situation would be laughed out of….oh, wait – Unless you are Apple and know who to pay off.

          Sorry, but saying Nokia needs to do the extra work here is taking all the responsibility from these “bloggers” in fair reporting.

          If they are biased, it wouldn’t matter how much time, money and effort Nokia spends trying to win their favor, which is why I am hoping Nokia doesn’t fall for that trap.

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 4:47 am

            @Inacurate – That’s a tall leap to think that making sure you’re getting your message out is going to kill your product. I think Nokia is smart enough not to do that. Don’t be silly.

            Do you know why Apple got away with it, because people like their phones so much they don’t care about the little details. They slapped on that free case and they stopped thinking about it, and they should, its just a phone.

            Nokia can ignore them (they’v been doing that for how many years now?). I mean why change since it’s worked so well up until now.

            Look, this is business. Enemies one decade are friends another. The bottom line is success. This isn’t a religion or a personal achievement. It’s a phone that was built to make money. You want to be successful, you adapt to the game. You don’t want to play the game, fine.

            At the end of the day, if MeeGo gets the same reception as the N8, then the MeeGo is going to be DEAD. If I was Nokia, I’d be seriously worried and for the next 8 or 9 months before the N9 releases, I’d have emergency plans to improve US blogger relations. I just want to see MeeGo get a fair shot. That’s all.

        • October 3, 2010 at 4:50 am

          As an American citizen, I’m wondering why US technology bloggers can’t keep up with the rest of the world.

          Nokia is, and has been, ahead of the American market for five years. Only *one* company in the United States has set a trend – that trend being a nice UI – only one. How does that even come close to the US being a trend setter for the rest of the world?

          As for applications, they are a part of the device in most cases. My N900 running Maemo 5 has a ton of applications that fit my life, but the kicker is I don’t really need a large percentage of them because Maemo 5 has so much built INTO the device right out of the box, it is not handicapped in purpose with the intent of forcing me to have to make additional purchases for basic functionality or even to have to download a free application for the same.

          It already does it, and that’s the definition of a true smart phone! 🙂

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 5:04 am

            @Inacurate – Did you just say that Nokia has been ahead of the American market for 5 years? You mean the N97 and N900? You’re kidding right?

            Android is growing faster than iOS and with Samsung, Motorola and HTC all behind Android, I think that’s a force to be reckoned with. You don’t think so?

            By the way, Symbian S^3 just releases a few days ago to select pre-orders so no, Nokia hasn’t been leading in squat.

            See you don’t get it. You’re still stuck in the world where apps just do more phone stuff. These apps don’t do phone stuff. Just some examples.



            It’s about choice and variety.

        • October 3, 2010 at 5:06 am

          It’s not a tall leap at all George – They are already advertising some, and those advertisements show what the *device* can do. They don’t pretty it up with big words, they tell it like it is. Most Americans needs to hear big words because it makes them feel better. Not Nokia’s problem these people don’t have the confidence to do their own research and buy a product based on their needs.

          Apple got away with it because it’s Apple. Had Nokia done the same exact thing if they had been in that position, they never would have gotten away from it.

          AT&T and Apple have been lying about signal strength for years, iPhone 4 uncovered and brought it to the forefront again. That got glossed over, nary a word about that now anymore.

          It IS just a phone, that’s exactly right. Not even a smart phone at that in fact, just a dumb phone that runs applications. Hell you can’t even edit Google Documents (Last I heard) unless you buy an application. Awesome, really good purchase there people! :\

          Adapting is great. We do that extraordinarily well in the US because we put ourselves into positions because of a lack of long term planning. So we have learned to adapt quickly. It’s a great skill for sure, but the way we got to is are still around in our society. The rest of the world has learned to be a lot more efficient and less wasteful, so things take a bit longer. I’m OK with that honestly.

          The reception of the N8, thus far, has been purposefully negative from a lot of major blogs. None of them can give concrete examples of why, but all of the negative mojo is there right along with their opinions and ignoring of a lot of facts. In that type of environment, it really is not going to matter how Nokia tries to improve relations, as these people are too enamored with shiny, intuitive products that look great on the outside and either come with ball and chain or no real depth and function. Or both.

          That isn’t going to continue to float in America for a lot longer. People have been starting to wake up and do their own research. The companies that lead by distraction, had better hope their adapting skills don’t get rusty. 😉

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 5:35 am

            Do Americans like big words? Sure.

            That’s where Jobs does so well. His message is clear, refined and easy to understand.

            Jobs sells you a feature and how it’s going to change your life. Nokia sells a bunch of checkboxes and leaves it to the consumer to figure out why its worth their time. You’re right, not effective in the US.

            The reception of the N8 has been negative, why? Because it’s not a game changer. If a blogger had to recommend a phone to their buddies (non-techie person), why would they bother recommending the N8? Nothing in the Nokia ecosystem is that compelling, whereas Apple and Google have a much more compelling ecosystem. Yes, OVI 2 just came out but its a bit behind.

            Motorola / HTC / Samsung adapt pretty fast, much better than Nokia, at least in the past 3 years.

            You speak like you work for Nokia. I don’t know if you do or not. So far you’ve blamed the media, Apple and consumers for Nokias troubles. At what point do you stop blaming others and and take a real hard look at what Nokia has to do to be successful?

        • October 3, 2010 at 5:29 am

          @George – I did just say that, no, I’m not kidding. 🙂

          Research who had what first in the last five years. Nokia, in ALL hardware categories. Video calling, touch screens, GPS, 3G, camera phones, 5MP, etc.

          Growth by Android, in a market with one other player, isn’t exactly a surprise to you, is it? Yet Nokia still manages to sell more devices than both companies combined. So I do not think it’s a whole lot of worry for Nokia.

          If Android didn’t require expensive hardware, I would think different. But since Android needs 1Ghz CPU just to run OK, I’m really not worried. Nokia can continue to dominate the volume market, one Apple will never enter. Nokia can continue to push their smart phone lines further down into the volume market until one day, they are one and the same. I think that is their plan, very long term, and very strategic.

          Your statements are based on software alone, which can always be improved and changed over time. Great software is….nice, but if it can’t do what I want, it’s not so great. iOS falls into that category. Android does not, but then I haven’t seen a device running Android that I like. I love Google, I think Android is good, but the whole fragmentation thing is a big problem for me! Not to mention, I can’t find a good Android phone on the AT&T network. A good phone requires me not being *required* to have a Messaging or Data plan!

          How do you figure I am stuck in that world? I am far from it. Was playing FF3 on my N900 using a PS3 controller and outputting to my 37″ screen the other week. That’s not phone stuff! 😉

          Nice list of applications. My N900 can do 10, 8, both 4s and 1, for free. As with any paid product/service, the hard part, which is preparing it all, is of course mitigated 100% buy paying the premium, in this case the cost of the applications. However, free > all. Unless you are rich, in which case I’ll stop replying to you for just a small amount of money, 5 figures!? 😀

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 5:47 am


            Being first is great, when you’re trying to impress someone but the reality is that Nokia just this week started to release competitive product. No, I don’t consider the N97 or N900 competitive to the iPhones and Androids of the world.

            The software ecosystem doesn’t just grow for fun. Nokia has had a store way longer than Apple but Apple overtook it in months after their SDK was releases. Nokia is struggling now to get developers to pay attention. I wonder why?

            The examples are just examples and these programs make a fair amount of money on the apps. The point is I don’t see app developers being excited about QT or the OVI store. Just sayin.

        • October 3, 2010 at 5:52 am

          I wish I worked for Nokia. Just so I could quit for failing to reach the US market.

          I blame Nokia for mistakes. Thinking globally is not a mistake. Not focusing on smart phones in a 350 million market where only 17% of consumers (51 million) have smart phones, is NOT a mistake. It’s good business and excellent strategy.

          Again, consumers *should not* be relying on the company selling you the product to make the sale. The company WANTS you to buy the product. They will say or do anything to help that goal! Checkboxes are what consumers should want and demand, the majority isn’t always right.

          Most people don’t know what they want or need and that holds true ESPECIALLY in America where we overbuy things all the time. It is the consumers responsibility to purchase a product they want/need. They should not listen to recommendations without also doing their own research. It’s common sense 101!

          The N8 is more of a game changer than the original iPhone which received a lot more fanfare, for what? One new feature. A capacitive touch screen. Wow. Awesome. I can put five fingers on the screen and they will all..but the screen is so small! Maybe four..no, three. Three isn’t to cramped! Really, that’s game changing? Please.

          I will continue to blame consumers who only listen to biased US bloggers, I will continue to blame US bloggers who are biased because it literally doesn’t have an ‘i’ as the beginning of the product name and I will continue to applaud Apple for pulling the wool off so many sheep and laughing all the way to the bank.

          For Nokia, I will continue to blame them for not at the least breaking off the entire US market into a sub-division and having said division work on putting out one device for the US market. Likewise, I will continue to blame them for not seriously improving the Ovi store until just recently, but applaud their advances with it, especially concerning buying through carrier bills.

          Most of all with Nokia, I continue to blame them for not listening to their very smart and adept general community on a lot of little things, or at the least acknowledging that they are aware of these little problems and are working to fix them. Granted not a lot of companies do that, but still… Nokia should be! 🙂

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 6:03 am

            I agree with a lot of what you’re saying.

            Here’s the problem with the mass market, they don’t spend a lot of time nerding out too tech blogs and reviews. It sits in their purse / pocket and they just use what their friends tell them is cool. They don’t care about the details.

            The same happened to the consumer camera market. People just buy what others buy.

            The early adopters are usually knowledgeable and the masses once it has become the in-thing just get whatever they think they need because someone else has it. Sad but true.

            Until that changes, Nokia has a bit of a challenge navigating that market.

        • October 3, 2010 at 6:18 am

          The first one is the innovator, the second is just taking the first’s idea and making it better.

          That’s a constant throughout the universe! 🙂

          I’m in 100% agreement with you, the N97 nor the N900 are competitive products to the iPhone or most Androids. In the case of the N900, even with it not being a product designed to compete with them…it does so handily in all the areas that matter. Which, contrary to popular opinions, are function and features. Not looks and feel!

          The answer is simple, actually. It has very little to do with either system. Both have vastly different standards and reach. One is limited to iOS devices, which are abundant no doubt. The other is limited to anything that is Qt compatible. One has strong restrictions resulting in better quality applications that are harder to get approved. The other has no such restrictions allowing for polar opposites in quality with no real approval process.

          None of that really matters though, at the end of the day if comes down to the fact that Apple has a strong presence in the US, whereas Nokia does not. And that’s the simple answer, the one that really matters.

          I say this because only in the US do we truly need these applications. The majority of the world uses Nokia phones, and the consumer buys that device based on their basic needs. They are not suckered into upgrading to a device they don’t really need.

          Apple’s store is NOT a good thing. It has added another service through which the US market can be controlled. Instead of buying a complete device that does what they need, here in the US people buy the iPhone because they know it has a lot of applications.

          And because of our nature over here, we don’t think about the cost of those applications as included with the cost of the device – even though that’s exactly what they are!

          I on the other hand, have never had to buy an application for my Nokia’s, N82 or N900! I didn’t pirate, either. If the device didn’t natively do it out of the box, I found it online easy enough without having to fork over any of my hard earned money!

        • October 3, 2010 at 6:21 am

          I agree with a lot I’m saying too! LOL

          Here’s the problem with your statement on the mass market: If that were true, why does it matter what tech blogs and reviews even say? 🙂 Those knowledgeable enough to recommend, or be taken as a serious recommendation, are going to be the ones doing their own research.

          It’s the same with the mind share debacle, people think Nokia is losing when in fact they are in the lead still, and that lead is GROWING while Apple’s is shrinking!

          That’s it for me, I could easily go on for hours as I love to debate, but I need to make sure I sleep well for my week long business trip this upcoming week!

          • George
            October 3, 2010 at 7:10 am

            The mass market users seem to have no problems at all with restrictions they like having quality. I can’t blame them.

            Nokia may not have a strong presence in the US, but there are developers world wide and because they dominate the smartphone market they should have more apps but sadly they do not.

            I think other countries will start to make good apps. Look at what NTT Docomo used to do for the Japan market, they used to make very specific apps for that market. Same in Korea when I visited a friend. I think it’s just a matter of time.

            I don’t mind forking over money for a good app. Angry Birds has been a lot of fun. Krull, not so much.

            So let me amend my statement again, the mass market doesn’t know what to get, they get what they think is popular so they turn to friends and blogger sites. They go from trend to trend.

            Well, in the US they are certainly losing maybe not in the rest of the world, but you’re just talking unit volume. Apple still dominates when it comes to revenue even though they are but a fraction of the market. But yeah, Americans only care about America. They don’t care what is sold in China / India because they feel like the US is the trendsetter.

  10. October 2, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    lol when i got the mobile in hand i felt its dummy lol. the homescreen looks like dummy models
    the display s awesome so it cheated me

  11. kamuscasio
    October 2, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    here’s a comparison between n8 and htc g2

    • Stylinred
      October 3, 2010 at 12:02 am

      wow the audio quality of the N8 video just trumps the htc video too

      they never uploaded their iphone video

      • IMarius
        October 3, 2010 at 4:12 am

        why have they not put up the iphone video ?

      • kamuscasio
        October 3, 2010 at 4:46 am

        yeah, it’s been almost 8hours i think. but still no video from ip4.
        i guess the quality is just embarassing that Noah decided not to upload it.

  12. Nocare
    October 3, 2010 at 2:22 am

    We will never hear something like speaker quality, photo taken in low light, share files with friend without pc, etc , americans try to hide it

    • kamuscasio
      October 3, 2010 at 5:04 am

      i don’t know these guys.
      but the recoding is made with the N8.
      low light.
      crispy clear video and audio too.

  13. Nocare
    October 3, 2010 at 3:28 am

    Can someone compare n8 camera with sony cybershot tx9

    what does n8 lack in features and quality

  14. Nocare
    October 3, 2010 at 5:55 am

    Would you all nokia haters like to see apple to be number one, and nokiagoes bankruppt? I just dont see apple products can do any good to human being,

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