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Another N8 preview

http://www.Tech65.org managed to get a quick hands-on with the soon to be release Nokia N8. Though there isn’t much shown with the test, the main takeaways are that the browser isn’t AS slow and terrible as people would have expected and the portrait keyboard needs a LOT of work. There seems to be little to no HTML 5 support as of yet and Nokia have not announced much in the way of HTML 5 with any of their future devices.

Here’s to hoping that there are firmware updates already being planned for these specific issues and will be released soon after release. In an ideal world the phone would ship with these fixes.

P.S. It seems that checkerboard when zooming out is only present on content heavy web-pages. Saw none on the rather light pages demonstrated here.

Give the video a watch if so inlined.

Thanks Chandru

Categories: Nokia
  1. N#O#R#U#L#E#S
    August 25, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    browser needs work yet to reach android levels…

    • August 25, 2010 at 8:58 pm

      You Got to.be kidding maybe it’s not perfect but it’s better than any android browser and I don’t know why peopple over rate so much android I mean it’s good but bot out of these world I have try many of them like galaxy S evo 4G and bunch of them and nothing that impress me now if you tell me iPhone os then we are talking it’s the best cellphone out there and trust me I’m a huge nokia fan but that’s the true maybe meego could make the diference

      • N#O#R#U#L#E#S
        August 25, 2010 at 9:41 pm

        so for you N8 browser much better than Galaxy s android browser?? lol u crazy..

        • August 26, 2010 at 4:11 am

          I don’t wanna say it’s better because I haven’t try the n8 but the videos speaks by them self and realy looks good I dont know if you have try the galaxy yet because I did and didn’t impressme

  2. IMarius
    August 25, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    not really worried about the portrait keyboard , i am sure there will be some nice 3rd party keyboards, i mean the standards keyboard for android is not really any good.

    As for the browser its really getting there, still cant wait for the N8

  3. skills
    August 25, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    whats so bad about the keyboard?

    • Andre
      August 25, 2010 at 8:02 pm

      Typing a URL using t9 without predictive could be an annoying and unduly arduous affair. There should be an option to choose the input method and the keyboard in use. Whether it’s a 3rd party keyboard or otherwise.

  4. alex68
    August 25, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    N8 3D rendering is at the same level as Iphone 3GS, Samsung Galaxy S, Motorola Droid X. HD ES Skinning skinning is the best and Pro ES Skinning skinning is on the top.


    • alex68
      August 25, 2010 at 8:17 pm

      I meant GL benchmark 1.1.

    • Jim
      August 25, 2010 at 11:01 pm

      yes. actually in many cases N8 overtakes galaxy s on graphics . I made the test with iphone 4 and in some cases N8 wins on graphics. what N8 lacks is a powerfull cpu.

    • Roger Johnson
      August 26, 2010 at 12:07 am

      You’re all wrong. N8 has the most powerful GPU on the market, jointly with iPhone 4 – and ONLY the iPhone 4. This is well known.

      Also, for the 5 billionth time, Symbian phones do NOT need a CPU equivalent to other high end devices they’re competing against. That really is how much more powerful Symbian is than Android or iOS – the difference between a 1Ghz CPU and a 680 (or whatever) MHz CPU. Symbian is THAT well engineered. Yes, really.

      • Jim
        August 26, 2010 at 12:46 am

        yes we all know that. but if I want to buy a device I don’t want to use only the os. I want to use apps as well. some apps may require a powerful cpu. for example Win 7 doesn’t require such a powerful cpu still there are computers who are delivered with powerful cpu. Why? because some applications may require more cpu. I was saying that this test (GL benchmark) was also testing the cpu where N8 is still not so powerful.

        • alex68
          August 26, 2010 at 8:33 am

          GLbenchmark has told everything but people just close eyes and do not want to believe it…

  5. alex68
    August 25, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    N8 is a mid-range phone. People should not expect too much on it.

    I am kind of disappointed after such a long time, Nokia is not able to make a real top phone yet. I know many friends working for Nokia. They are just doing the job, nothing else. Nokia does need real changes, hiring more intelligent and hardworking people and dumping those average engineers.

    • chfyfx
      August 25, 2010 at 10:08 pm

      N8 might be an average phone, but do not be mistaken, my friend. Nokia is just as intelligent as everyone else out there. It is just taking a different approach and finding the right direction. Nokia has come a long way. It has been nurturing poor nations and opening up every platform it uses for free. These are very significant. If there are companies as closed as Apple, there are companies as open as Nokia. It is a coin with both sides.

      Can you imaging Nokia became Apple type of company that makes tech fashion products and control everything it makes?

      N9 is very likely to be a step forward. At least it won’t use a snapdragon like everyone else. Well, cannot say anything for sure. Let’s wait and see.

      • Raj
        August 25, 2010 at 10:56 pm

        I like Nokia too. but it hasnt steped the game up yet. N8 has best camera but thats it. N8 is just catch up thats all. if N9 doesnt deliver what everon expects then nokia is in deep trouble. I wouldnt be suprise if nokia falls behind that it will take them years to come back. Because right now they are not just losing market. They are losing customers and their trust. and it is very hard to earn back trust. Even though they make high end devices but if ppl dont have trust in nokia they are not buying it. For Ex. I wanna buy N9 but once it comes out iwant to wait atlease 2-3 months b4 spending 700bucks on it.
        I Still think that N9 will be just complete catch up.(2010)I wont be surpasing next iphone or android phone.

        • Jim
          August 25, 2010 at 11:18 pm

          I also don’t make high hopes about N9. one reason is that meego will be on its early stage. they need to move fast in 2011 when dual core arm cpu-s will appear.
          I think my next phone will be a dual core so I will pass the N9 for now.

          N9 if is the one in the pictures posted a few days ago will be a niche product. reasons:
          1. it will be a 4 inch screen ( to big for most pf the people)
          2. keyboard – people wants slim phones . phones with keyboards are a little thicker.

          The reason why they do this is because meego is immature and they want to let some time until apps come to the store . I’ll bet that the next meego device will be probably April -May 2011 and will be 3.5 inches , no keyboard and dual core cpu and by that time I will see if nokia is going in any direction or not.

    • Jim
      August 25, 2010 at 11:25 pm

      they are able to do a phone that can compete with the rest hardware speaking. the reason they didn’t is because of the software. they can’t offer the same user experience as iphone or android. so the only reason was to make a device with a nice camera. this way they will say this phone has the best camera. they also used lower cpu because it’s cheaper, so they can lower the price of the device.
      From the graphic point of view I think they’ve done a great job compared with any android device including galaxy s, but a little slow then iphone 4 (not much).
      N9 will be more cpu powerful , less power efficient, but it will be a niche device, just like evo 4g.

    • Roger Johnson
      August 26, 2010 at 12:11 am

      > N8 is a mid-range phone. People should not expect too much on it.

      This too, is rubbish. N8 kicks the crap out of everything else on the market, even though it is indeed pitched as a mid range phone.

      Show me an Android/iPhone/Blackberry/whatever with a camera as good, HDMI out as good, Dolby Surround Sound at all, USB on the go, an OS that runs as well as Symbian^3 on that hardware, is as cheap as an N8 will be, multitasks as well, GPU as powerful (the N8 GPU beats all others except iPhone 4 which is roughly equal).

      The trouble with you folk is all you all think big MHz CPU + big price = high end. WRONG.

      Yes, the N8 beats the crap out of everything else on the market.

  6. Yougo
    August 25, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Whatever nokia try, their so called high end phone is not a real high endphone,

    n8 disadvantages
    low screen res
    lower cpu speed
    ram should be at least 386

    n9 disadvantages
    qwerty is not popular among mass market
    cpu/gpu is a.so found in other highh end phones
    lack ofdecent games

    in short, nokia phones can only pklease the chaepskate, skinflint and developingcountries

    nokia should not be the market leader in high end market, hence we can expect their phone is half the price of new iphone for the higher spec every year!

    Consumers keep laughing while nokia keep losing profit and market share

  7. chfyfx
    August 26, 2010 at 12:30 am

    People got comfortable when Nokia was always leading the way. Then they feel anxious when other company does what Nokia used to do. This feeling is natural, and I think Nokia felt exactly the same. Apple has started a revolution, and N97 is the product of anxiety.

    Nokia’s direction is mobile computing, which is making a phone size laptop with wireless connection, GPS, camera, etc. Is this the right direction? You decide.

    The challenge right now is that can Nokia build an modern OS fast enough to compete in the market on the user experience side. More importantly, that OS also needs to have the potential to rival MS Windows for real mobile computing experience.

    Maemo5 was a great start. However, Nokia is not a software company after all. It does not have enough resource to take it further fast enough. Then it found Intel, although I kind of hoped Nokia could do it with Oracle/Sun instead.

    N9 does not even need to be more than an evolution from N900 to be successful. A more complete Maemo5 and best in class hardware will do it. Of coourse, qwerty is a must have.

    • Jim
      August 26, 2010 at 1:04 am

      well I’m glad they didn’t go with oracle/sun. I don’t like oracle at all, and the last thing is to build a VM java based os like android. Then no one will choose that os over android.

      Intel is ok, and I’m glad they choose to go with them for 2 reasons:
      1. they were both in trouble: intel needed to enter the mobile area , and nokia needed some connection to promote maemo to other companies. they made meego using both arm and x86 cpu because the os is based on qt and you can simply choose the compiler. plus intel needed a SDK for their moblin os and qt was perfect because it was already implemented on linux, and is also very popular.
      2. they are promoting mobile computer which is something like a super smartphone , and to build a mobile computer you need a powerful cpu (x86) . the only problem is that x86 cpu is not power efficient. that’s the only problem intel has.

      They will start probably with some tablets , because there power efficiency is not that important as it is on the phone.

      sadly if intel succeed to create a power efficient cpu it will be the end for ARM and I think nobody wants that, except for intel.

      • chfyfx
        August 26, 2010 at 1:13 am

        Make sense, yet Oracle is also one of the major contributor for Linux Foundation. Backed up by a software company might mean sooner N9 release and better support after.

  8. alex68
    August 26, 2010 at 8:20 am

    The top management many times promised that N9 would be released at the end of year. But according to my latest and closest source, it will unlikely happen! This just gives me very bad feeling about Nokia management that know nothing happening inside Nokia. No wonder Nokia has been doing so poorly, compared to competitors.

    I am now almost losing all my faith in Nokia…

    • wes
      August 26, 2010 at 9:45 am

      I think it makes more sense for Nokia to postpone the launch of the N9 rather than giving MeeGo the unfinished, buggy software image. They are catching up for some time now and another two months won’t kill them. And they have the N8 and C7 that will easily let them bridge some months. The last thing they should do is release another device with unfinished software like the N97…
      The N9 has to bring the user experience to a top level, still not pissing of all the geeks out there (and I include myselft in that group). That’s gonna be the most difficult part…

      Still I hope they’ll make it until the end of the year…

    • JP
      August 26, 2010 at 10:15 am

      No, the only promises on MeeGo devices are that there will be “a major product milestone” by the end of the year. For all you and I know, that could mean pretty much anything from initial concept to product launch.

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