Eldar Murtazin interviewed by TechCrunch
The clueless people at Techcrunch Interviewed the famous russian “Samsung Research Consultant” Eldar Murtazin on the case involving him and the supposed stolen N8 prototype. Of course as America see the world as themselves or nothing they made some of the frankly most arrogant and clueless statements of Nokia during the interview.
Now don’t get me wrong I love America its an amazing country and I have visited there a few times in fact I am planning to visit there this year, and they have lovely people their especially some of our readers from America that don’t make boneheaded comments regarding Nokia, but seriously how did these two brainless people even get past the interview stage to even work at TechCrunch.
And by the way yes I am a Nokia enthusiast and yes I can take criticisms from bloggers but the recent amount of it from American bloggers is just plain embarrassing. Nokia know sort of in trouble their are in and they are working on it HARD. It doesn’t take a couple of years to switch Nokia’s whole focus on smartphones and services. It is a Long terms process for anyone who knows how to run a business. Remember, Nokia are the WORLD’s biggest mobile phone maker; they got there for a reason by innovating and hard work and not by luck. People love their products for a reason aren’t being forced to use them. They got caught off guard by Apple and are catching up Anssi wrote a whole blog post about it.
If you don’t like Nokia then fine but to make comments that make you look dumber than a 5 year old, it is no way to gain any respect from anyone.
BTW sorry I could only find a link for the video here
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The interview was full of ignorance, by all parties except Eldar who was not ignorant of anything, but lying. Has never had a Nokia device? He’s tweeted about taking the “E7” on holiday.
The only way Eldar could have reviewed it if the handset was in his possession. At N8 launch he was comparing differences with his own N8. Not to have had it would have been an incredible failure as a supposed reviewer. Therefore it was an obscene LIE that he has never had these devices. Unless of course that was a translation mix up.
Sarah Lucy was unbelievably flippant about Nokia. She reminded me of the iBrownBear in that iPhone 4 vs Evo 4G video. “I don’t care, I want the iPhone”.
I was also very disappointed in Butcher’s comment about the N7.
It was so disappointing to watch as a whole, I’ve never seen anything so unprofessional. Even engadget aren’t this bad.
N8 has proven Eldar wrong. He said the camera is not better than what’s currently available – his stolen proto was not even the same hardware. Each day performance improves. N8 addresses the audience it has been designed for. For the uber high end, Nokia have other devices (which he is also planning on excreting reviews)
PS added a screenshot.
And this is why I dislike american bloggers 😛
Thanks Jay was struggling to embed the video as it didn’t work. Great way for TechCrunch to show their worth not being able to embed video and clueless idiots that claim themselves to be “tech journalists”
It’s not at all possible to have reviewed the phone in the detail with which he went into for both his first impression of the phone and/or any of the two following review/preview commentary crud that he did following that.
He stated himself that he was using a Keyboarded version of the N8 on his vacation so his claims about not having any Nokia device are well and truly false. He’s been unbelievable biased against Nokia for quite a while now and well and truly up Samsung’s arse for longer still.
I lose respect for people when they dismiss things that they don’t know about in an off-handed manner just because they don’t know about it and it’s one thing that has irked me about the US-centric blogosphere.
REALLY REALLY IRKED ME :@
Like Nokia have claimed he is a Samsung Research Consultant without doubt. Samsung are chasing hard to catch Nokia as the world’s largest mobile phone maker and who better than Eldar tarnish Nokia’s image and reputation, makes sense now
These “journalists” are shame for their corporation. No real question, only suck his d…k. This girl… what she’s doing there???
American think they are king of the world. F..k them. They don’t know Nokia? It’s not astonishing when you know 52% of americans can’t locate New-York on a map. Then Finland…
I find them disgraceful and and plain arrogant in a way feel sorry for them no info about Nokia I bet they have never touched a Nokia phone before, because if they did they would certainly change their views about the N8 and Nokia in general
It’s not an Iphone. They don’t want it LOL
Wow, what a complete waste of time that was.
I’m in agreement with Jay, Eldar just flat out lied there. How did he do his review of an early version of the N8 if he never actually had it? And the interviewers didn’t even think to ask him this?
And that woman, Christ, why the hell is someone so ignorant presenting something like that?
To be fair to the Americans, there were two Brits there who were very nearly just as ignorant on all things Nokia.
Unprofessionalism at its worst.
And the N8 is the successor the the N7? Hmmm must have missed that one.
We ALL missed that one.
Even the Force missed that one
LOLZ!!!!
It was hard to watch DUMB and DUMBER attempting to interview a LIAR. I suppose the best way to deal with TechCrunch is to turn it off, remove it from my RSS feed, and be done with it.
I stopped after she said that it was no Iphone.
WHAT THE F*** does the iphone bring to the table that hasn’t already been done to death in prior years!!! F*** me man there are some idiots doing things I can only wish I could do.
Eldar’s a blasted liar but that’s already been covered time and again.
The woman’s a baffoon and should never be allowed on the air again.
That video was a waste of my time and intellect
yes here on US,well in seattle at least,they are more likely to have that reaction “i dont care i want iphone” i have been thro high school and seeing old technologies as”revolutionary” is ticking me off.but im in college now and some seems to get it and some not.i see a bunch of these freshman with a slider/keyboard and thats it,others have some htc hd2 or evo which is encouraging… but not sign of nokia well excepr my gf who has the xpress music from tmobile.in conclusion they dont really know the company,and its a shame because its a good company even my grandma has a nokia since 16 years and the phone still works perfectly and with good reception.
anyway im in US atm so maybe when i come back to Europe ill see sum nokia fans
I live in the US. Most people here are idiots.
This coming from a US citizen
One stupid remark about the Iphone makes all Americans slobbering idiots. As pointed out, two Brits did the majority of the talking. Glad to see there is so much love for us.
I’m american, I live in the US, I know enough idiots to say that a large percentage of people here are both ignorant and vocal with their ignorance :-P.
No kidding, all those American idiots have one “leader” that makes them even more idiotic: STEVE JOBS!
Taking things from other cell phones makers and calling it revolutionary makes these idiots think that it is new and revolutionary! Such a waste!
It’s nice to hear this coming from an American!
Also live in US, I second Andre’s statements. To many are idiotic sheep. Not just iSheep, but sheep in general believing the FIRST thing they hear and not wondering where the information came from, if it’s even true or considering the source at all.
ha ha ha. I’m from europe and I have a lot of friends in the US . All nice, open-minded people,and they all know about nokia, but they say it’s not very well promoted and a lot of people don’t know about them. Also my US friends come a lot in europe. so who know, maybe a good strategy for nokia to enter in the us market will be a solution.
related to the topic, those 2 from TechCrunch , specially that lady probably were payed to make bad remarks about nokia. I’m sure they knew very well about nokia.
Also I have a little question for US readers of this blog: what phones used to have people in US before the iphone appear?
RAZR
RAZR, anything on Nextel w/the walkie-talkie, low-end Nokia’s and LGs.
It’s not so much that the iPhone changed the landscape that has made it sell well: It is subsidized. No carrier prior to it on AT&T had a real smart phone that was shiny AND so “affordable” up front. But since American’s don’t think long term, that whole extra $720 for two years went right over their head. N95 was out, but cost $600 – that sticker price was to much, even though the iPhone was already more expensive on just data alone!!
Wow just watched the video again for reasons I cannot explain
1. How the hell can you review a phone without having it in your possession
2. People do care about Nokia they are the world’s largest mobile phone maker
3. Why do Nokia want to protect their intellectual property because the pretty much invented GSM you bigots at TechCrunch thats why Apple are being sued by Nokia
4.That european “tech blogger” doesn’t know anything about Nokia considering he covers Europe
5. Just read the comments on TechCrunch pretty much explains why those two are bigots and Eldar is a Liar
Andre, That statement proves your own point. I know you know all 300 million people to make such a blanket statement. Whose’s the ignorant and bias one here. Too bad.
It’s been shown time and again, not just by my own experience that a large percentage of americans are ignorant of what goes on outside of their borders.
Quite a few can’t locate the country that is at war with their own on a bloody map.
The infinite number of people that run around trolling forums and blogs saying that mac’s don’t get viruses are another example. I don’t profess at any point to know all of the 300 million people in the United States nor do I want to but the fact of the matter still remains, a lot of them are plain dumb and vocal with their idiocy.
You only have to look at the person that the COUNTRY AS A MAJORITY elected to lead them twice, to see what I mean.
I never made a blanket statement about all Americans, shoot, I know and work with enough Ph.D’s to know that there are quite a few of them that are brilliant and put my own intellect to shame but they only account for a minute percentage of the population and they’re definitely not the most outspoken minority either!
I was wondering why you had this harsh comment, that was until I had seen the clip myself.
They did indeed bash Nokia in the comment when they said “Nobody cares about Nokia”, however they simultaneously also bashed Apple by referring to the iPhone 4 leak.
You are right in your arguments about that Nokia is the World’s biggest mobile phone maker. Looking away from the “dumb phones” (which generally have great build quality) and focusing on the their Symbian-powered handsets the build quality is not of the greatest.
That in essential explains a bit when you pay more money for a premium handset, you should get a phone built to feel like “premium”.
Nokia does show this in some cases such as the E71, E75 but in overall their N-series handsets have been poorly designed when it comes to quality.
Also you are right when you say that it takes years to switch focus on smartphones and services, but that pretty much I would say explains Nokia’s business process as a whole. In many ways it feels like Nokia runs the silo business model and have fallen into the pitfalls typically for this particular business model.
Examples are e.g. N900 with the Maemo OS, Symbian OS, S40 and upcoming MeeGo when it comes to the platforms. Each have their own unique focus area, but does not provide Nokia with the big picture. (Their common business goal). You can even see it in terms of services they are providing (N-gage 2.0 which failed again) and as mentioned the different series of handsets.
Sure, not every areas or usage needs top notch smartphones, but when users (e.g. in emerging markets) adopts to the usage of their handsets to everything crucial in their lives they’ll eventually also will adopt to using their handset for everything such as online banking, taking pictures, webbrowsing etc.
It therefore makes no sense in putting effort to separate different keyareas of a handset. (Then again I’m a poweruser)
It is however a good trend that they are catching up on the touchscreen area by adapting Symbian to more userfriendly touch operations (Symbian^3 and Symbian^4) but it will take a while before they can catch up.
In essence Symbian is lagging behind because it have become the “new Windows”, by that I mean that Symbian is still quite resource hungry in terms of RAM and storage to power the OS efficiently. (Hopefully MeeGo will be less resource hungry).
What I particularly haven’t liked with Symbian is that you can’t display the characters of “foreign” languages without installing 3rd party software and tweak it yourself and unfortunately I don’t see that to change in N8 (which I’m getting later) either. This have been the major flaw and missing feature in Symbian for years and I’ve used N-gage, N6600, N73, N95, N82 and now N97.
So much for the term “mobile computers”, which Nokia dropped shortly after.
I can’t even have more than max 4 applications running on my N97 before it hangs, whereas on my N82 I could do much more.
I’m not defending Nokia’s actions or for the most part sub-standard high-end devices over the past couple of years. NOT AT ALL.
Symbian is NOT the new windows by any long stretch of the imagination.
I think it’s best to use the analogy of Mac’s vs PC’s- Windows 7 vs Mac OS X 10.6.
Most people when buying Pc’s find one that looks nice and is cheap.
Most people when buying mac’s look for the screen size that fits them and the looks.
If comparing the average bought PC to the average bought mac. You’d assume from the speed at which OSX runs that windows is simply sluggish and sucky without looking at the underlying hardware.
Put the same hardware in the PC as you have in the mac and there would be little to nothing between the two in terms of performance and THAT my friend is the issue that has plagued symbian.
Not the OS itself, which is fine, but the hardware running it.
I can tell you categorically that in terms of memory management, no mobile OS is at symbian’s level. ESPECIALLY if the other mobile devices are running linux and/or unix code. Do a quick search on how the two differ in terms of handling memory requests and low memory and you’ll understand what I mean.
The fact that my 5800 can do everything that an Iphone 3gs can on even more ancient hardware is testament enough to symbian’s prowess.
The N97 was a mistake just like motorola and the razr just more detrimental to the reputation of the company as a whole.
Americans ignorant of what happens outside their borders? whaaaaat? you’re kidding…. lol
if you were to walk up to 10 people and ask them where nokia is located, all 10 will tell you japan or korea. If you asked them where finland is, they’ll be clueless, they’ll mumble something about finlandia vodka. hell, ask them who the leaders of mexico or canada are, i gurantee you 9 out of 10 wouldn’t know.
my personal experience being a serbian-american is hysterical. tell people you’re serbian, they say “syrian? where all the terrorist come from?” or “Siberia? i hear it’s cold there!” its sad really. i’ll give geographic hints like the Adriatic sea, and neighboring countries and they look at me puzzled.
as far as iPhanboyism goes, you have to realize that the vast majority of people owning an iphone are coming from a moto razr or some other crap flip phone. so the iphone is like their Fisher Price “my first cell phone toy”.
OMG hysterical an iPhone is like their Fisher Price “my first cell phone toy” you’re a genius man I cant stop laughing about that comment. You my friend are soooo right
I think the best thing to do here is not to generalise Americans or even American bloggers, despite large majority of the prominent ones on the tech sites adhering to the stereotype that others perceive on their bias against Nokia.
Butcher is one such case of a supposed Euro Blogger who has just invented the Nokia N7.
Though they act as representatives, no group of people will ever represent a country faithfully.
Nope, they won’t represent the country as a whole.
The country represents itself and I can tell you it’s not that great a representation lol.
I’m definitely not the most worldly person around or the best versed but the general public is a sad sight worse.
Glad you think so highly of your fellow Americans. Guess you have PHD’s to hang with. Again, too bad.
Lol, what’s too bad dennis?
Explain what your issue with my comments are and I’ll address them for you.
I think the problem is Americans did not grow up with Nokia as us Europeans did so they see Nokia and instantly think whats the big deal. Nokia during my childhood was huge especially in schools I doubt it was in American schools and to be fair Nokia’s marketing in America isn’t very good
marketing is non-existent here in the US. I saw more adverts for phones like the samsung moment than any nokia phone, ever. Not like it matters to me.
It was expressed by the article author that Americans are idiots and you have twice said that you agree with those statements. A blanket condemnation of a country and its people is not good. Are there plenty of people who make ignorant statements? Yes. I think that one can find things said by people in other countries that would qualify as ignorant but I wouldn’t say that their whole country is stupid. That is my only point. Bashing a whole country does not make sense to me. A cheap shot is a cheap shot.
Blanket statement, fine, emotional, possibly, completely inaccurate……… let’s leave that open for debate :-).
I won’t go so far as to put words in the author’s mouth, but would you disagree that a significant number of people that you’ve come across in this country would qualify as unduly ignorant and dismissive?
That is my perception of the statement you refer to.
Then again, what we’re exposed to is, to us, the truth, in spite of the fact that the truth we see and believe may not be the real truth :-).
I guess not being exposed is a decent enough excuse, huh.
Hi Dennis,
John has expressed opinion on the majority of American tech bloggers, not American people. Unfortunately, the inaccurate and ignorant statements about Nokia just seem to correlate with bloggers based in the US. While that in itself is another matter, I think the issue here is the general ignorance of Nokia, their past, current and future. Unless there is a translation mix up, John’s post only talks about American bloggers, and in fact praises American people. I love American people, my cousin is American. Andre (mynokiablog) is US based. For quite a while, many of the Nokia blogs and Nokia fan sites were US based. Symbian-Guru (RIP), The Nokia Blog, Darla Mack, (many more I cant remember), Howard Forums (large Nokia forum portion).
We do not condone any blanket statements of any country by the representatives (no matter how many or how frequent suggest otherwise). I do not wish MyNokiaBlog to be a youtube comment bashing ground of one group of people against another base on race/colour/religion etc. Maybe phone preferences is ok:p.
RE. Hi Dennis
I want to make something clear here I am in no way shape or form calling the general American public stupid the only problem that I have is the sense of arrogance “certain blogs” have against Nokia, now this is partly Nokia’s fault as they have not taken the American public serious enough which is a shame because I do believe if Nokia had made the effort early on then Nokia wouldn’t be in the trouble they are in right now concerning their reputation in America. I hope you understand and you weren’t offended by any of my comments and I am sorry if I have misrepresented the American public as I said before I love America and I am fascinated by their people its just a shame that Nokia doesn’t see it the same way, hopefully that changes very soon 🙂
Dennis, most Americans ARE idiots and so are most of the tech “bloggers” that claim American location. The statement is general and very accurate, I am sorry if you do not agree with it or simply do not see the facts staring you in the face.
Most Americans make the wrong choices every day of their life. The kind of choices that lead to debt, unhealthy living and little to no education. Unfortunately for the rest of the world, THESE are the things that we have done so well promoting to them and these bad habits are why Americans are looked down upon so often, and rightfully so.
Most Americans do not know how to “live without” – they feel entitled to everything regardless of their financial, work or personal situation and that has given us a very bad reputation as countless people all over the world go without every single day of their lives. No money? Put it on credit! No job? Let’s go out drinking and party! Relationship not “just working”? Break up and move on to the next, always another fish in the sea!
I will bash this country until it wakes up if that is what it takes to get its citizens to use a little COMMON SENSE in life and stop being selfish, immature, whiny babies that think they are entitled to having everything their way or else they are going to sue.
Jay, John – Feel free to delete this comment if you choose. My idea of being an American requires me to respond to Dennis, even if he never reads it, I tried my best to stand up for what I know is right and have no regrets about my actions, that’s how I was raised and it really saddens me to know people are unable to accept the truth sometimes simply because of how it is said. Beating around the bush and tact, are unproductive traits that have made comfy homes in America and elsewhere, because people always fear the truth and don’t know how to handle it. 🙂
To Jay and John, Thanks for the response. Sorry to divert from the true intention of this blog. I enjoy these discussions and like to learn more about the phones that I use and have used fo 18 years. It looks like Nokia wants to address the issues that are facing them. Cheap shots are counterproductive. Thanks again, Dennis
lol @ 4th comment
http://gizmodo.com/5583085/entirely-legally-obtained-nokia-n8-camera-samples
I saw that comment too its people that have been misinformed or don’t regard Nokia in the Smartphone race, again the trouble is Nokia are not exposed as the traditional phone manufacturers in America unfortunately
iPhone, Android and Blackberry are the only phones covered in U.S. based media (Mashable is an excellent example of this myopia). Nokia is rarely mentioned which is frustrating to me as a long-time Nokia shareholder. Nokia’s lack of branding is evident when people confuse my E71 for a Blackberry.
The iPhone succeeded because it’s elegantly simple to use and Apple is a master at marketing. Nonetheless, I notice how many iPhones breakdown, how tethered iPhone users are to outlets (it’s humorous to see them rushing for unused sockets), the fragility of the iPhone (my wife dropped her E71 into the deep end of our pool and it continues to operate), and wonder if a product ever had class action lawsuits filed against it so quickly after release as did the new iPhone.
Yes, Americans (in general) are badly informed and hold opinions fed to them by the “authorities” of the media (this is my experience and frustration as an American), and are utterly unaware of Nokia’s strong presence outside North America (in addition to being ignorant of the subtleties of more important issues like history, politics and economics). It’s up to Nokia to develop a sustained marketing strategy (perhaps including an ad for the “swimming pool test” – how would an iPhone fare at the bottom of a pool?) to re-establish itself in the U.S. and to overcome self-inflicted wounds like the N97. My stock portfolio will suffer the consequences until Nokia regains a significant American presence.
I am sure it must be a VERY difficult time to be a Nokia shareholder especially in the US, aren’t the shareholder putting more pressure on Nokia though? Or are they not listening anyway. Props to you for sticking to Nokia and I hope it gets better for Nokia and you and the stocks go shooting up again.
I wouldnt like to generalize, Americans are not all this thick. What we should do is write Arrington a short explanation why this particular interview is severely flawed and demand rectification. These people work for him, and surely they must have failed to meet his quality standards.
Yep agree the interview is severely flawed, if you just read the comments on TechCrunch most of the comments there are also negative towards the video so we are not the only ones complaining. Again I am not complaining about the criticisms towards Nokia but I am bothered about the lack of knowledge and or any professionalism portrayed in that video
just watched the video
……..wow ….. i mean really, i would feel bad for nokia , if i was not already feeling really bad for russia , its like watching fox news try to talk about something outside of america, it just ends up being a bunch of stereotypical cold war era jokes.