Symbian 3 review

The ever so popular Eldar Murtizan published his frankly ridiculously long review of the Symbian 3 OS that will be powering the Nokia N8 which you can read here. You have to give it to him despite his frankly hatred for Nokia he has written a long review on Symbian 3 which I bet you won’t find anywhere else.

Some of the interesting notes from his review :

  • Symbian 3 is a decent upgrade for Symbian users
  • Increased RAM improves the number of Apps which can be run improvement on previous devices
  • Ultimately Symbian 3 is a evolutionary step rather than revolutionary
  • Icons and UI are outdated
  • Browser didn’t get any significant updates (very disappointing)
  • Ultimately Symbian 3 is still catching up to competition (iOS, Android, Bada)
  • Significant Updates to Symbian 3 are lacking due to Nokia’s resources being stretched , due to Symbian 4 and Meego being developed alongside (isn’t that a good thing???)
  • Ultimately Symbian is inferior to its competition even though Nokia will sell tons of N8’s

I am still baffled that eldar has the guts to even compare Symbian with Bada. Bada is a glorified feature phone OS every one says that even renowned nokia haters engadget

Let us know in the comments of what you think of eldar’s review in the comments and whether it has changed your mind on the N8

All right I admit that Symbian is starting to look old now in terms of its UI but the UI in my opinion is better looking than S60 5th edition.


  1. oicur0t
    June 22, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    It wasn’t a Symbian ^3 review, it was a Symbian ^3 UI review. No mention of the actual core OS.

    • Andre
      June 22, 2010 at 10:55 pm

      The core OS probably pisses all over BADA and is most likely better than Android. Don’t know much about the core of iOS

    • John Wiegand-forson
      June 22, 2010 at 11:07 pm

      Thanks for the clarification, I am sure that the average customer doesn’t care about the core os so that is why eldar went with the “what you can see” rather than the stuff behind it

  2. Andre
    June 22, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    He provided lots of pictures!! 🙂
    But the fact that he brought BADA into the equation at any point in time was enough for me to ignore his conclusions section.
    IMO there really isn’t that much(if anything) separating S^3 from android and honestly iOS4 though much improved from the dire app-launcher thing it was on release is still not that great either, it’s simply prettier and shiny.
    The UI does need a new look, and I’m hoping that S^4 and MeeGo (Alpha version hopefully released by the end of the month) can do for Nokia’s future and fortune what the Iphone and iOS did for apple.

    PS. I for one hate using s605th edition when I have a pretty theme in use :-P.

    • John Wiegand-forson
      June 22, 2010 at 11:09 pm

      I was scratching my head whenever he mentioned BADA as pretty much no one in the tech industry regards it as a proper smartphone OS. Still funny to see that there are BADA OS fanboys

      • Jim
        June 22, 2010 at 11:35 pm

        actually I like bada. I don’t think I will buy a samsung phone , but from what I’ve seen on youtube looks nice.

        • June 22, 2010 at 11:44 pm

          Agree. There are some nice polished things in BADA, and as they’ve learned from Apple, that’s all anyone cares about these days.

          The homescreen thing is utterly shite beyond belief though. One widget per screen and endless swiping?

          Otherwise, it has lots of things that look well done.

        • Andre
          June 22, 2010 at 11:45 pm

          It’s shiny isnt it! 🙂
          But honestly, BADA is considered a joke more than anything else in the mobile industry.

          • Jim
            June 22, 2010 at 11:58 pm

            yes. but trust me 95% of the people who buy phone don’t event know what OS is running on their phone. The average apps installed on a phone is around 1-2.
            When someone whants to buy a phone first it looks at the shell, then it turns it on to see the menu and after that he buys the phone. did you see the TV commercials? you saw that they don’t specify the OS? they just tell you what you can do with it: facebook, twitter, email .. etc

  3. Mark
    June 23, 2010 at 12:08 am

    Coming from a person with a very sceptical view, saying S^3 is catching up is a HUGE compliment. Do keep in mind that you can use other browsers and that a new browser version should be out this year. All new and Webkit & Qt-y.

    • Andre
      June 23, 2010 at 12:28 am

      When you say that it is a Huge compliment do you mean that in the positive or negative sense?
      By that I mean are you saying that symbian has actually caught up and it’s a good thing that they made enough improvements for that to be considered the case or are you saying that such compliments are wide of the mark.

    • June 23, 2010 at 12:28 am

      I’m looking forward to that new browser. Shame it won’t come with N8 out of the box. It’s been a long wait for a decent default browser on Symbian.

      It used to be the best – desktop like on Mobile phone but never caught up. We had that mind blowing MicroB but for what ever reason, that’s not on Symbian.

  4. Bazil
    June 23, 2010 at 2:06 am

    Just look at the improvements of iOS4 over the previous version, according to Engadget: http://dailymobile.se/2010/06/21/iphone-ios-4-is-now-live-changelog-inside/
    All those “new things” have been features of Symbian for years. And they are saying Symbian is trying to catch up with iOS??? LOL

    Is Symbian “old” because Eldar doesn’t like the icons of a particular device? (By the way, I love those Ovi icons, I find them very practical and modern, and there is no need for Nokia to change them and ruin their functionality just because every pro-Apple blogger pisses his pants with those same-looking and difficult to distinguish iPhone icons, which are in fact much older – 3 years old.) Did he ever hear of themes? Icons, fonts, colours and wallpapers are not part of the OS, not even parts of a particular device’s UI. They can be changed using a theme, and there are thousand of themes for Symbian devices. A feature no other platform has, which of course Eldar fails to indicate, the same way he does with all the other advantages of the Symbian platform.

    Eldar has been transformed to a passionate Nokia hater lately, even more passionate than famous pro-Apple sites like Gizmodo. I cannot help but think that someone in Espoo refused to pay him the amount of money he demanded.

  5. Inokia
    June 23, 2010 at 4:39 am

    Is nokia planning publish a magazine about its products

  6. Georg
    June 23, 2010 at 7:15 am

    Well:
    >All right I admit that Symbian is starting to look old now in terms of its UI but the UI in my opinion is better looking than S60 5th edition.

    And that’s just not enough. Nokia is behind Apple and Android by several years and they still haven’t catched up but give us only a revamped version of an ageing OS. I personally will still consider buying the N8 but honestly, Nokia should fire a bunch of people who missed that the industry is going TS and Apps. And Meego seems good, but they have only just released PRE-Alpha!!!

    Edgar’s review says exactly what I expected and it’s fair I think.

    • Bazil
      June 23, 2010 at 11:45 am

      I am laughing on you fanboys. Nokia “missed the industry was going to apps”? LOL. Nokia CREATED that industry. Symbian phones support apps since 2000.

  7. pff
    June 23, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Eldar’s review show us the truth. Indeed, there are some improvements but it’s not enough. iOS4 and Android Froyo are very complète, user friendly, simple. Same old icons, same mistakes (can you tell me why the keyboard dosen’t appera automatically when you click on “create new message”?). It’s always the same song

  8. Max
    June 23, 2010 at 9:04 am

    Eldar is a frekin Moron. He loves Bada which doesn’t even have multitasking, and is full of bugs. I guess he’s on Samsung’s payroll

  9. Symbian Freako
    June 23, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Can anyone tell me what is the point of Symbian 3 if it lacks the UI experience… I assume, that Symbian 4 won’t make that much of a difference too. Comparing Symbian with Android or iOS one can see that a lot of effort was put in the development of both UI’s, while Smyybian lacks stability and innovation. Not to mention quick updates:)

  10. Andre
    • John Wiegand-forson
      June 23, 2010 at 10:27 pm

      LOL lets hope it starts a new era in Nokia becoming great again

    • Roger Johnson
      June 24, 2010 at 11:50 am

      You’re misunderstanding this news of NSeries going Meego. They’re merely using the NSeries label as the continuing label for their top of the line range. The alternative would be to introduce another new series label and stick MeeGo devices in that, but that wouldn’t have the brand strength. Hence a slight reshuffling of what devices are released under what label.

      You’re completely misunderstanding the situation if you see Symbian as somehow on the wane with this announcement, and that they will be phased out in due course. Indeed, the exact opposite is true. The ENTIRE FIELD of mobile phones is undergoing an upgrade, and Nokia (given their market share) is leading the charge (ha ha to anyone that thought Nokia were dying in any way). Symbian devices will not only continue to grow in power and features, they will similarly continue to invade the featurephone market from the top down. We’re talking many hundreds of millions of devices over a fairly short period of time. And to think Apple are crowing about iOS reaching 100 million!

      Symbian is on 300 million+ and that’s over years of smartphones being niche. NO ONE is as well positioned to be crowned king of smartphone futures as Symbian and Nokia.

      Watch and learn folks, watch and learn.

  11. Roger Johnson
    June 24, 2010 at 11:49 am

    You aren’t seriously going to post that rubbish here are you? Eldar’s “second look” is more of the same anti-Nokia pro-Android pro-iPhone biased nonsense. And the reason that’s the case is because if you look across all the blogs and tech sites out there, including ones that are definitely not pro-Nokia, e.g. they’re independent, or they’re even US ones that have a very pro-Android or pro-iPhone view of the world, they are ALL saying positive things about the N8 (usually very positive). Eldar stands alone in his review – see his impressions at the end. The man is full of Nokia hate after being twice publicly slapped down by them, and he cannot help himself. No one takes Eldar’s reviews seriously any more.

  12. Shimano
    September 9, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    You call this a review?
    fucking blogwhore created some title to gain attention

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